A Tale of Two Citizens (and Two Citizenries)

Donald J. Trump on the recent terrorist attack in Britain:


  1. Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That’s because they used knives and a truck!

  2. At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is “no reason to be alarmed!”

  3. We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don’t get smart it will only get worse

  4. Whatever the United States can do to help out in London and the U. K., we will be there – WE ARE WITH YOU. GOD BLESS!

  5. We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!

Edward R. Murrow, on Britain’s confrontation with the Third Reich:

I doubt that the most important thing was Dunkirk, or the Battle of Britain, El Alamein or Stalingrad. Not even the landings in Normandy or the great blows struck by British and American bombers. Historians may decide that any one of these events was decisive, but I am persuaded that this nation chose to win or lose this war under the established rules of parliamentary procedure. It feared Nazism, but did not choose to imitate it. The government was given dictatorial power, but it was used with restraint, and the House of Commons was ever vigilant. Do you remember that while London was being bombed in the daylight, the House devoted two days to discussing conditions under which enemy aliens were detained on the Isle of Man? Though Britain fell, there were to be no concentration camps here.

–From a BBC Broadcast, February 1946, quoted on the frontispiece of Kenneth Mackenzie, The English Parliament (1963)

5 thoughts on “A Tale of Two Citizens (and Two Citizenries)

  1. As we all sadly know, our President doesn’t read much, and even when he does, he doesn’t understand what he reads and often takes things out of context. The mayor of London wasn’t saying the city was safe. I believe he was trying to reassure people not to be alarmed by the large police presence.

    Even scarier, as experts on Nazism are noting, what the Donald HAS read appears to be making it into his speeches:
    “In Germany too the Jews once laughed at my prophecies. I don’t know whether they are still laughing, or whether they have already lost the inclination to laugh, but I can assure you that everywhere they will stop laughing. With these prophecies I shall prove to be right.”

    “At what point does America get demeaned? At what point do they start laughing at us as a country? We want fair treatment for its citizens and we want fair treatment for our taxpayers. We don’t want other leaders and other countries laughing at us anymore, and they won’t be. They won’t be.”

    We laughed a lot in 2016. We aren’t laughing now, are we?

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    • Our president is just a monumental fucking asshole. No other language describes him.

      Here’s what Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London actually said.

      Londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. No reason to be alarmed — one of the things the police and all of us need to do is make sure we’re as safe as we possibly can be.

      He obviously wasn’t trying to minimize the horror of the attacks. He was telling people to cooperate with the police rather than being alarmed at their presence. What kind of all-out asshole takes an opportunity like this to back-stab someone on the front lines of the attack right after telling “the UK” that “we” are “with” them? Evidently, “we” are not with the mayor of London. He’s fair game for misrepresentation. It’s as though Trump had decided who was really British and who wasn’t, and was putting his support behind real Britons–except that Khan didn’t make the cut.

      In fairness, I stopped laughing sometime in late 2015.

      “At what point does America get demeaned?” I think that horse left the barn awhile ago.


        • I wish I could say that it’s the barn behind which a certain someone deserves to be taken out and shot, but as the Kathy Griffin affair demonstrates, humor that too closely approximates lese-majeste can trigger* an investigation (however pro forma) by the Secret Service–even if it’s transparently obvious that there’s no threat of any kind involved, much less a serious threat to any physical person. But as wishes are not prescriptions for action, I refrain.

          *Just to be clear, “trigger” is a metaphor, or a figure of speech or something. I wasn’t trying to suggest that the investigation involved the use of firearms. I mean, you can’t be too clear, can you? Of course, “clear” is a metaphor, too. Life is so complicated!


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