You Lose: The NJ Governors’ Debate

Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon
Going to the candidates’ debate…
Laugh about it, shout about it, when you’ve got to choose
Every way you look at it, you lose
–Simon and Garfunkel, “Mrs Robinson

Yesterday was the New Jersey gubernatorial candidates’ debate, pitting Democrat Mikie Sherrill against Republican Jack Ciattarelli. There are third-party candidates in the race, Libertarian and Socialist, but naturally, neither of them appeared on stage.

Here is a sample of Ciattarelli’s thinking, on education:

“The farther away you get from the classroom, the less impact I think any governmental institution has on what’s taking place in the classroom and student learning,” Ciattarelli said. “So I don’t necessarily have a problem with the president and the administration downsizing the Department of Education. Just because they got rid of the Department of Education doesn’t mean they got rid of federal funding.”

Educational impact is measured by educational statistics. Educational statistics are produced through educational research. The gold standard of educational research in the United States is the National Assessment of Educational Progress, which is a program of the Department of Education, which Trump has gutted. So Ciattarelli’s claim here is: if we pay attention to impact, we should do away with the gold standard by which we measure it. In short: impact matters so much that we should fly blind about it. That makes zero sense, which is also a good description of his campaign. 

The underlying premise of Ciattarelli’s claim here is that there should be no federal involvement in education except for federal funding. Funding should be disbursed, but the impact of the funding should go unmeasured, and the process of disbursement should go unsupervised. 

Honesty and consistency would counsel an amendment to Ciattarelli’s approach to education. If there really is an inverse relationship between positive educational outcomes and governmental intervention into education, and positive outcomes are an imperative, then the ideal policy would be to eliminate all governmental intervention into education as quickly as possible, federal, state, and local. We should not only “downsize” but abolish the federal Department of Education, followed by the New Jersey Department of Education, followed by all of the local Boards of Education, followed by all of the public schools themselves, from K-12 to all of the public universities. Ciattarelli therefore can’t answer my earlier objection by saying that NAEP can be replaced by state-level assessments. All he can say is that the market will produce an assessment or not, and that he can’t predict which will happen. 

Once we do away with public schools in New Jersey, we’ll discover that there is no longer any rationale for “home rule” here, since “home rule” is tied to the public school system. So we could then abolish most of the municipalities in New Jersey, starting with Ciattarelli’s own, Somerset and Raritan. Indeed, my suggestion would be to pilot all of Ciattarelli’s policies on his own turf, and let him deal with the consequences.

I don’t know whether the preceding is the view actually taken by the Libertarian candidate, but it is a recognizably libertarian view, and a good reason why the Libertarian candidate should have been invited to the debate. One reason why Americans can’t think straight about politics is that the only politics they ever confront comes from mushmilk thinkers like Jack Ciattarelli. Put some radicals in the debate, and voters would come to grasp where less radically (and less clearly) expressed thoughts actually lead. Naturally, no one questioned the underlying premise of Ciattarelli’s claim. Is there really an inverse relationship between government involvement in schooling and positive outcomes? If so, where is that shown? “The farther away you get from a classroom…” is the way his comment began. Change the “you” to “I,” and end it with “the better off you are,” and that’s where the comment should have ended.

Here is Sherrill:

Sherrill was asked twice during the debate and twice by reporters afterward whether she would keep or repeal the Immigrant Trust Directive, a state policy limiting how often state and local law enforcement can cooperate with federal immigration agents. While she didn’t discuss the policy, she vowed to bar immigration agents from wearing masks and said New Jersey officials should follow the law and the Constitution.

The Immigrant Trust Directive (ITD) has been on the books since 2018, has survived a number of legal challenges, and is the only thing–a minimal thing–that stands between the residents of this state and a complete descent into fascism at the hands of ICE/HSI/CBP/HSA. Most migrant defense advocates back an extended legislative version of the ITD called the Immigrant Trust Act (ITA). Sherrill is on record as opposing the ITA. Now we discover that she’s unwilling even to support the ITD. 

A few days ago, I wrote a semi-joking post about how Mikie Sherrill’s candidacy was like a scene out of the movie “Lionheart,” the one in which Lyon Gauthier is pushed into a “sweatbox.” What we learn from the debate is that it’s not a joke. She really does want to push us into a sweatbox. Ciattarelli has come out and said he wants to repeal the ITD. Sherrill’s silence suggests that she wants to do the same, but lacks the courage to come out and say so.

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I don’t know how else to explain her refusal to oppose Ciattarrelli on this clear and obvious issue. If she really wanted to uphold the ITD, why the reluctance to say so? If the answer is that she wants to appease right-wing voters, why wouldn’t that strategy then apply to her when she became governor? If so, why wouldn’t it entail appeasing them by giving them what they want, namely the repeal of the ITD? Whatever you say, please don’t expect me to believe that a person unable to back a policy in a campaign will suddenly find the courage to back it when she actually has to face the legislature.

If you’ve just landed on this planet from Mars this morning, and want a quick sense of the stakes involved, I’d suggest four pieces of reading. Start with Jonathan Blitzer’s “Enemies of the State” in the Sept. 15 issue of The New Yorker. Then read Rumeysa Ozturk’s “Even God Cannot Hear Us Here,” co-published this past July in the Tufts University daily and Vanity Fair. Then read Austin Kocher’s Substack posts for August 29 and June 26. Kocher is an academic expert on immigration detentions at Syracuse University. Blitzer is a seasoned reporter; Ozturk is a detainee. No one can honestly describe either The New Yorker or Vanity Fair as far-left radical publications, and you’d have to be an expert to quarrel with Kocher’s expertise–which Mikie Sherrill obviously is not. The cumulative message here is hard to dispute.

Blitzer shows that ICE is out of control. Ozturk shows that detainees are being sent to the functional equivalent of concentration camps. Kocher shows that there’s no end in sight, and that immigration enforcement right now is essentially an unprincipled power grab. If this isn’t enough for you, feel free to tell me what more you’d need to know to grasp that repeal of the ITD is not the answer. As far as I can tell, however, skepticism about ICE’s intentions has now become a game of Skeptical Goalpost Movement. Every time you establish something, it’s erased by someone demanding that you establish something else. 

A person unsure about the value of the ITD at this point hasn’t just forfeited our vote. She’s not in fact on our side at all. If, to quote The New Yorker, we are now “enemies of the state” care of federal immigration enforcement, then Mikie Sherrill is the one making us so. In that case, she is our enemy. We should explicitly call her that, and act accordingly. 

Nobody asked either of these candidates where they stand on the IHRA. This suggests that defamation is just par for the course in this state: if you can accuse someone of anti-Semitism, even on the flimsiest of confabulated evidence, well then, they must be guilty of whatever rubbish you’ve cooked up, and that’s all there is to it.

In a recent email exchange I had with Kayleigh Lavornia, chief of staff for State Senator Andrew Zwicker, Lavornia told me that despite Zwicker’s past support for the IHRA, he at least has re-thought things: “I can share with confidence that, after meeting with many organizations such a J Street and CAIR, we have concerns with the IHRA definition of Antisemitism and the potential consequences for free speech that its passage into law would have.” Zwicker (who’s Jewish) has re-thought things, but neither Ciattarelli nor Sherrill (who are not Jewish) have. Obviously, posturing philo-Semitic non-Jews know best what anti-Semitism is; Jews know nothing, and neither do the prospective targets of the defamations involved. None of this found its way into the gubernatorial debate. Apparently, the prospects for free speech in New Jersey have no bearing on a gubernatorial debate about life in New Jersey.

Lesson: The Republicans favor an incoherent version of libertarian-flavored fascism; the Democrats are reluctant, cringing followers, hoping to “pivot to the center,” but with no real idea what to do except to beat the Republicans because they’re Democrats. This is a re-play from Weimar Germany of the contest between the nationalists and the centrists (the DNVP and Zentrum). It’s what happens when the politics of fascism meets the politics of center-pivoting moderation. What happens, in case you’re still wondering, is the Third Reich, or the Fourth, if you’re counting. I know that the Democratic establishment finds that message “alarmist” and “irresponsible,” but then, so did the Weimar centrists. 

We should stop giving a damn what the Democratic establishment or its propagandists–Ezra Klein, Mark Lilla, et al–have to say about politics. There is no reason to think that they know what they’re talking about. We should instead be centering and platforming the newer, less-widely-known but far more intelligent younger generation of commentators opposing that establishment. If I had to pick just one, I’d pick Rachel Cohen, a thirty-something attorney, activist, and writer based in Chicago. Cohen runs a Substack called “Planting Trees,” which on any day is more informative and entertaining than a whole month’s worth of self-indulgent “Guest Essays” at The New York Times. Her latest piece, “Democratic Talking Heads Are Allergic to Standing for Anything, I Guess,” is exactly on point, and applies perfectly to Sherrill. Give yourself a break from the non-stop bullshit artistry of WaPo and the NYT and read it. The world will at last come into focus. Which is a start.


Thanks to Susan Gordon for the Ozturk piece

8 thoughts on “You Lose: The NJ Governors’ Debate

  1. HI, it is great if you are actually able to get in touch with NJ state legislators — a minor miracle in my experience — I would recommend that you consider proposing the following to them. Place on the next ballot in 2026 the following ballot question:

    Shall the Constitution of NJ be amended to say that the state government can set a required percentage of low-income housing units for cities of not more than 15%, and of not more than 10% for townships and boroughs. The state can also require that up to 10% of their new housing units be low-income, but cannot require any township or borough to expand the total number of housing units in their town beyond those existing at on the last day of 2026. Local governments retain full control over zoning and cannot be sued by builders seeking to convert single-family homes or duplex houses into apartment buildings or condo buildings of three or more storeys. The state must, however, spend at least $1 billion per year on revitalizing city areas with high concentrations of poverty and offering incentives for first-time home buyers in these areas, until such time as the legislature shall, by a vote of 60% in both chambers, determine that the need for such renovation has been satisfied.

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    • Andrew Zwicker is an unusually responsive legislator. I started contacting him a few years ago to complain about the non-responsiveness of New Jersey Transit to a recurring problem: they would constantly lock the shelters at local train stations in order to prevent the homeless from using them. Even setting aside the punishment of the homeless, that violated the stated hours of the shelters for ordinary commuters. After NJT started ghosting me, I wrote to Zwicker, who delegated the issue to his chief of staff, Kayleigh Lavornia. Lavornia has been extraordinarily responsive. I’ve had to make the complaint many times over many years, so that’s how we sort of “know” each other.

      I think I need more context to understand your proposed constitutional amendment. You might want to make it the subject of a stand-alone post. What’s the rationale for the “more than” and “cannot require” clauses? And if developers can’t sue towns, how are they to be held to their Mt Laurel requirements? I’m not sure that the “spend at least $1 billion per year” stipulation adds any extra housing to the stock (as opposed to revitalizing what exists), but under-supply seems a big part of the problem

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  2. Thank You for writing the article and analyzing the candidate responses. My positions differ from other candidates is that I don’t view the federal government as having jurisdiction over immigration under Article I, Section VIII of the US Constitution (only naturalization – citizenship is mentioned, there). One of the grievances listed in the Declaration of Independence is that the King was restricting immigration. The federal government stepped in to limit immigration with the Chinese Exclusion Act, but even there, the US Supreme Court acknowledge that it could not find authority for the federal government to control immigration, so it used other justifications. My personal position is that those who pass the background checks, should be able to come and live in the state if New Jersey.

    On the issue of education, I support the ability of parents to send their children across the municipal lines, which I believe would lower the de-facto segregation in our public schools. I also believe that local governments would be able to spend more money on education, if that is what they wanted, if the State Income Tax (which we did not have until 1976, and 9 states do not have it now) was gradually reduced and eventually abolished. The money kept within each municipality, that would not be going to fund public schools in other municipalities, could be used to increase spending on local public schools. User fees (such as what already exists when it comes to toll roads and parks) would be used to fund services, that are currently funded by the State Income Tax, with the State government raising revenue through tourism, and other areas.

    When it comes to free speech, I support an individual right to criticize any level of government, whether it is within the US or outside of the US borders. I also support the individual right to assembly and protest any level of government, as listed above.

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